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Friday, August 22, 2014

THE MEANING OF INSANITY -SEGARRA STYLE

The Rock Cats Crew
 
I am paraphrasing here, but I think many have said the definition of insanity is repeatedly doing the same thing while expecting a different result.

Maybe there might just be a touch of insanity in the Segarra Administration.

After being widely criticized for 18 months of secret negotiations to lure the Rock Cat's away from New Britain. apparently the secrecy continues. Yesterday a "secret group" met out of the public eye to look at the proposals submitted for the develo0pment. According to the Hartford Courant, the public was not permitted to sit in on the meeting Thursday.

I have to ask why?  If you as Mayor were widely criticized for the secrecy that was a major part of sinking the deal in the first place, wouldn't you want to go in a different direction if you wanted the public acceptance. The deadline for submissions has already passed, so nothing can change now. Reviewing the proposals in a public discussion will not cause any issues as far as confidentiality . The public does not need to speak or even be heard, but they do have the right to know that everything is being done aboveboard and be given the option to observe the process.

When it comes to trust in Segarra and his administration, that seems to be eroding every day. A little common sense might start turning that around and he needs to throw the windows open to every aspect of business at Hartford City Hall. The good , the bad and the ugly.

This is the public business and tax money and they have every right to know what's going on before it is too late. A group of bureaucrats making decisions behind closed doors will not move this project forward one inch and will not win any support from residents. And yes, with the exception of one business person on the panel, they are all bureaucrats .

The secret meetings may also be a violation of the FOI Laws as they apply to Executive Session or "meetings from which the public is not permitted"

80 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mr. Caviar just doesn't get it. Unless he knows that the 2 proposals are so miserable, that it's better to hide it and continue the process secretly. Mr. Caviar already decided that he wants a stadium with his skybox and a new city hall with his own private complex; now he only needs to manipulate us a little and get moving. After all, what's a little tax increase every year to pay for Caviar's fantasies in a city that already has the highest tax burden in the state.

Anonymous said...

Here's a comment about yesterday's stadium 'presentation' to the 'panel', but PUBLIC NOT ALLOWED:

gosh717

A couple of weeks ago, Segarra was quoted as saying that when the RFPs were ready to be discussed, he was going to seek input from "the community". So this is his version of "the community": A hand-picked bunch of toadies who are securely in the city's pocket. There is no one on that so-called panel who is going to rock the mayor's boat. Some of them are there to feel important. Some of them are there with an eye to employment/appointment within city government. And some of them are probably there because they were told to be there. And as was stated, they will not be part of the decision-making process. I'm sure their think-tank sessions will be well-catered, courtesy of the city of Hartford. I'm feeling Shakespearean tonight thinking about this tragi-comedy, and I think Hamlet said it best: "It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".

Anonymous said...

... and another interesting comment about yesterday's 'presentation':

jimpeterson883

I say build the stadium ,but not for baseball. Instead lets do a Roman thing. Lets feed the tax payers to lions. It will be a big hit , people from all over will come and watch. Also we can pipe in christian music from WCCC to help entertain the crowd.

Touch of Class Escort Service said...

Mayor Caviar wasn't secret about paying rent-boys at the Touch of Class Escort Service so why is he so secretive now?

Anonymous said...

Who was the "one business person" on the panel?

Anonymous said...

great idea, the 'Roman thing,' but instead of feeding us the tax payers to lion, why not feed the corrupt politicians to the lions. This will be even bigger hit.

Anonymous said...

Enough already with this Mayor! How much more is he going to keep getting away with? And his administration too? First he spends $50,000 pretending to look for a new police chief when all along he knew he was going to put his puppet in. Its time for change from him to the fire and police chief and police command staff. Its poising.

John mendez said...

Touch of class anyone.......lmao...I can't wait for the reelection announcement and the answers to all those touch of class questions,it should be hysterical. In addition,mayor caviar will have to explain in public why he loved to frolic and party with teenage boys in the back of his house......stay tuned

Anonymous said...

WE The People Hartford will pay THEM the politicians Hartford. That's Pedro's definition to transparency and iinput from the community

Anonymous said...

He can fantasize about a "Mayor's Complex, complete with a secret room for his "Touch of Class" excursions, he won't be in office by time he gets off his knees getting it built!

Mayor Pervert, wake up from your dellusional fantasies and smell the Prozac, you insane little corrupt criminal. Can't wait to confront you at your re-election announcement.., Karma's a B###H. We're coming for you and your corrupt.cronies. We will take our city back!

Anonymous said...

Is this the end of the corrupt political road to Segarra? Will we, the tax payers, no longer pay for caviar starting January 2016?

Anonymous said...

we certainly hope so, or even better that Segarra, aka mayor caviar, resigns

Anonymous said...

hopefully this mayor caviar will have no reelection announcement, hopefully he has to explain nothing, hopefully he just goes away

Anonymous said...

Help! Sixteen more months with those incompetent. Help!!

Anonymous said...

Ex-corporation Counsel Accused Of Misusing Client's Money
April 04, 1997|By LYNNE TUOHY and TOM PULEO; Courant Staff Writers

Former Hartford Corporation Counsel Pedro E. Segarra is under investigation by the Statewide Grievance Committee for allegedly using, without permission, more than $72,000 belonging to a man who was both his client and companion.

The complaint against Segarra was filed in July by John Mendez of Hartford, with whom Segarra has had both a personal and professional relationship throughout much of the past 23 years. The two lived together until last year, traveled extensively together and invested in real estate together -- which complicates the case.
Segarra's attorney, Joseph G. Lynch, told an administrative panel of the Statewide Grievance Committee Thursday that Segarra and Mendez often signed each other's personal checks.

Lynch acknowledged that Segarra had no written authorization from Mendez to use the funds, but maintained that Mendez had given Segarra ``verbal, repeated and historic'' authorization to use his money.

Mendez vehemently disagreed, saying that at no time did he authorize Segarra to disburse the $73,213.13, which Mendez had netted from the sale of a property in Puerto Rico.

Mendez said he received a check from Segarra for $1,000 only. He said he did not authorize Segarra to disburse the funds to anyone else, including to several of Segarra's relatives. Segarra issued one check for $15,000 to his own sister, who then paid Mendez the $15,000. The balance of the money -- $57,213.13 -- remains unaccounted for.

Mendez testified Segarra suggested depositing the $73,213.13 into his law office account to shelter it from the IRS, which was pursuing Mendez for back taxes.

``I trusted Pedro,'' Mendez said this week. ``Everything I had, he would handle.''

Segarra declined to comment Thursday, saying Lynch advised him to say nothing. He recently opened his own law office at 80 Main St. in Hartford.

The dispute over the funds erupted in the waning months of Segarra's four-year tenure as top lawyer for the city of Hartford -- a post he resigned last spring amid criticism that he was frequently absent or difficult to locate. Segarra acknowledged then that he was having trouble balancing his public service and his private practice of law.

``Burnout was a real significant factor,'' Segarra said when he announced his resignation last March. ``I just can't keep juggling both jobs anymore.''

At the time, insiders at city hall said Segarra resigned in part because of personal problems with Mendez. But the extent of those problems was unknown to many.




Mendez filed his complaint with the local grievance panel for the Hartford-New Britain Judicial District in July 1996. It has since cleared two review panels, whose members have given credence to Mendez's claims.

The local panel referred the case and its findings to the Statewide Grievance Committee, which found enough merit in the complaint to hold Thursday's hearing. The hearing, held at Superior Court in Waterbury, marked the first time< the case has surfaced publicly. The file itself remains sealed.

M. Donald Cardwell, an atttorney for Mendez, asked the panel to recess the hearing until he could have experts examine photostats of checks contained in Segarra's reply brief because Mendez says his signature had been forged. ``This is a credibility case,'' Cardwell said.

The panel refused, saying Cardwell could file a new grievance on grounds of forgery later.

Lynch would not provide a copy of Segarra's 150-page response to the grievance complaint, adding, ``I don't want to talk about the grievance process outside the hearing. I don't think it's appropriate.''

While this took place years ago, and finally was dismissed against Pedro, we have the right to know who the real Pedro is.

John mendez said...

Yes,we remember the article. Pedro left city hall after certain west farms mall bathroom activities would have come out. And also those parties with young boys at Pedro and john,s house.and Pedro was a frequent touch of class patron

Anonymous said...

I guess this case against Segarra was dismissed but there are still more questions than answers about this old case. If Segarra decides to run for mayor again we must ask him all the tough questions, covering everything. EVERYTHING.

Anonymous said...

did John Mendez file a lawsuit against Segarra for the 'missing' $72k? what was the outcome of that lawsuit? where is John Mendez these days?

Anonymous said...

The Political literature is being printed for distribution with the questions and information regarding the issues of Westfarms, Touch of Class, charges of abuse, money management and on and on. Pedro is a Wolf in Sheep Clothing. He has abused his power, his office, city funds, city jobs and with his husband Charlie.

Fool us once, shame on you, Fool us twice shame on you Pedro!!! We had enough already, this Terry Shenanigans and blantant cronyism has sunk you. Thank you Pedro, Hartford's eyes wide opened to your deceptions, out right lies, you're about transparent as granite and as phony as a 3 dollar bill.

So in your own words, your non re-election is a "Done Deal".

Anonymous said...

Mayor Caviar: "Done Deal".
Saundra Kee Borges: "Done Deal".
Thomas Deller: "Done Deal".
Shawn Wooden: "Done Deal".
All of you listed as a "Done Deal", please start packing; start looking for another job. You are all "Done Deal" for us.

Anonymous said...

So the whole stadium deal was kept secret except for the handful of developers who knew about it ahead of time to so they could cash in after the project was announced. From today’s Courant:

"As soon as we heard there would be [requests for proposals], we pursued the property," Yves-Georges A. Joseph II, vice president of development at Centerplan, said. "We knew it would be an important part of the assemblage."

Anonymous said...

This is so wrong on so many fronts, SHADY, SHADY, SHADY... Shame on you Caviar, and the group of idiots that supported this deception on Hartford.

FOUL BALL!!!! FORFEIT the game Caviar, your roster should be benched! As a matter of fact the whole team of idiots need to be traded to some other unsuspecting City.

Anonymous said...

When they investigate Segarra Caviar, Deller the Seller and Wooden, they have to investigate Centerplan as well for that "as soon as we heard..." thing. What did they hear and when did they hear it.

Anonymous said...

Details, give us the details of the 2 proposals. Show us everything. Show the media everything. What are these politicians waiting for? What are you hiding? If there's nothing to hide, show it to us. What's the secrecy all over again? Segarra, Charlie O., Deller: Enough already with your shenanigans!

Anonymous said...

move the caviar to new britain, vote caviar for new britain mayor, vote stewart for hartford mayor, she will do much better job here than the caviar

Anonymous said...

Segarra/Caviar and Wooden lost all trust and respect. They both must go!

Anonymous said...

Segarra/Caviar and Wooden lost all trust and respect. They both must go!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 8:37PM you can add Deller -the seller- to your list. He too must go.

Anonymous said...

We have acronyms for this insane group...

Let's start with Pedro E. Segarra (PES), AKA...
Pervert Egotistical S##THEAD
Followed.by SKB, AKA...
Scandalous Knowledgeless B###H
And then we have Shawn Wooden,
He just has an AKA around town...ASS
Arrogant SelfServing Shawn
Lastlly,
Tom Deller, we love his established AKA...
Deller the Seller

Can someone put a warrant out for their ARRESTS!!!

angry architect said...

freeman companies has been pulling strings at city hall/dpw for a couple of years now. just ask any of the other local architects if they've felt the pressure to use Freeman in order to get city work. that's probably where the investigation should start.

Anonymous said...

Why not bring a NHL team to play in the Caviar Segarra stadium? You know, hockey on grass team, gonna be more profitable than the parkings and hot dogs revenue the Caviar Segarra and Deller the Seller team promise us.

Anonymous said...

Hockey on Grass in the Caviar Stadium. Sounds good to me.

Anonymous said...

Someone has to contact the DOJ/ US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,450 Main St, 3rd floor 860-947-1101 and file a complaint. They will investigate, trust me on this, they're committed to a better Hartford, but someone has to file.

Anonymous said...

hey, 7:20pm, they'll have $$ coming from parking, hot dogs AND BEER (with or withour caviar). Cheers!

Anonymous said...

call this stadium "The House That Caviar Built But Bankrupted Us."

Anonymous said...

The 2 guys in the photo are happy happy. Let them build this stadium without any burden on the already heavily taxed Hartford residents, as they promise. But they will have to put the 5 bedroom house on Prospect Av and the 5 bedroom house on Scarborough St as collateral, just in case they do ask the taxpayers for money to finance their 'done-deal' fantasy.
Segarra and Wooden: 'done-deal' or no 'done-deal'?

Anonymous said...

You guys in the Hpd serious about MFN rovella.I'm in the hfd making half of what you guys make.you shit on your pj guy. Your lucky you Evan have a pj guy. You folded hat no personaltys can make easily make a 1000,000 this year with your I pods an volunteer whelen lights in your personal vehicle sitting on your ass at the mdc private jobs. Not counting all the other road work going on.The guys in traffic actual earn there money dealing with the drunks and knuckle heads during special events. Wwwwaaahhhhh

Anonymous said...

Its more like a "dumb deal".We'll see who's laughing then. All three need a reality check. Please, please stop them before its too late.

Anonymous said...

To 7:33 pm. Are you serious with your dumb post? Why don't you stop playing with hoses and come do a real job! If you worked for the department you would see why some people feel the way they do. This is coming from some one that sits in a fire house for 24 hours. Eat, sleep and play with hoses.

Anonymous said...

Just pondering;, since Terry was called out as "Tic Tac Toe", has anyone heard from him? Hey Terry we miss your "little mice" stories, your imiginary smack downs and the verdict is out on your "Done Deal". I only say that because Caviar and your b###h are too stupid to see the print this will bring if they have the arogance and ordasitty to put your dumb a## as Asst Chief.

All in All we miss your fictional comments. Take your tail from between your legs and share your dellusional comments.

Anonymous said...

I didn't know traffic guys were cops....lololol....thanks for the insight Anonymous 733 pm.....

Anonymous said...

Hey Anonymous at the HFD, first of all just reading your gripe makes you look like you haven't gotten past third grade and your stuck in ebonics. There is that old saying, hookers and firemen spend half the shift lying on their backs. TURD!!

Anonymous said...

^ You're.

Anonymous said...

Hey Caviar Segarra and Seller The Seller, what's up with the new stadium/new city hall/new supermarket/new neighborhood proposals? What's with all the secrecy? What are you hiding there? What's the big deal, after all there are only 2 proposals?

Anonymous said...

That would be, "you're stuck in ebonics" As in you are. Now who did you say was stuck in the third grade? A$$hole!

Anonymous said...

Good sources says skb and caviar will be indicted. Lt Gov at Middle Haddam Fair.

10-62 PJ Walmart Lobsters said...

Speaking of prostitutes... Has HPD lost anymore cruiser interiors to DNA testing lately?

Anonymous said...

dude, they don't want to show it to the public. they don't have a way to pay for that ballpark so they added a new city hall, 300 or 600 residential units, more stuff to confuse us. and it all started with a $60,000,000 ballpark to build for the new britain rock cats. but they lied to us all along, so now they need to save their face somehow. very soon they'll tell us that these proposals are so good that they'll actually save us money, lots of money, over the years. and in 5, 6, 7 years, when we'll all chock to death with even more taxes, they'll say that it made sense at the time. these people, Segarra, Wooden, Deller, SKB are nothing but corrupt, their egos higher that the clouds, and they care only about themselves and their narrow interests.

those who make dalmations look sad said...

OFFICER, is it clear for fire to arrive from staging down the street? Why yes dispatcher we already had to fight with this 10-44 and EMS were even kind enough to help out. The wussies in the red trucks can come now after watching.
Go back to your bunks and dream about what money you can make as an Officer rather than your job. "DUH! I MUST Break Things"

Oh by the way can you park at a scene without disrupting the entire city acting as if a UFO is about to land on the Colt building or something. Bunch of glory hounds wanting to break shit and get paid like their worth. lol

Anonymous said...

11:12pm Don't you get it? They DON'T want us to see the offers. They DON'T want us to know who's paying for what and how much. It's too embarrassing to them.

Anonymous said...

11:12pm Don't you get it? They DON'T want us to see the offers. They DON'T want us to know who's paying for what and how much. It's too embarrassing to them.

Anonymous said...

The Caviar Man, SKB, Deller-Seller and Wooden "team" will never do what's right for Hartford, they'll only do for right for themselves.

Anonymous said...

I don't agree with you. Nothing too embarrassing to these corrupt liars. No matter what, they will stick all the millions they spend on us. No matter what!

Anonymous said...

SKB and caviar indicted? The best thing that can happen to our city. When? Say who?

Anonymous said...

Segarra the caviar man takes home MORE than $12,000 a month for a miserable, inefficient, borderline criminal service. Most Hartford residents take home about the same amount, but for the entire year. Why doesn't he buy his own caviar with his own money?

Anonymous said...

from what I understand, this man, segarra, probably broke and violated every law. what's worse, he betrayed our trust. time for you to go, mr.

Anonymous said...

Time for Segarra to go, time for him to go to jail if he did anything illegal

Anonymous said...

alright seriously guys if your sick and tired of this mayor then do something and stop taking to this blog and venting your anger. remember that governor few years ago that got recalled. what happened was the citizens camped out in the capital until he resigned. lets all go to city hall and demand pedro steps down, do it each day until he does. actions speaks louder than words

Most cops and firefighters are good hardworking people said...

dalmations @ 9:36. Last time I checked it is your bargaining work to deal with violent out of control persons. HFD is following policy (which you have an issue with) to stage until the scene is safe for EMS. If you would like us to do your bargaining work, please lobby city hall to give us funds for training and equipment so that we don't have to wait for you to finish your paperwork before answering "A" calls. The only reason HFD is doing EMS is because HPD couldn't get it done. If you have been on the job more than a few weeks you would know that.

Secondly, as for the disrupting the city and UFO references, there is nothing more disruptive than cops driving like bats out of hell, killing innocent people. Such was the case not so long ago. A police officer with the Hartford Police Department was arrested Thursday in connection with a fatal motor vehicle accident in July. Taikwon Dudley was charged with negligent homicide with a motor vehicle, reckless driving, traveling too fast for conditions and failure to obey a traffic signal. or perhaps this one A Hartford police officer involved in a fatal crash early Sunday was driving with her lights and siren on, but went through a stop sign, and her car rammed into another car as the officer was on her way to assist in the chase of a stolen vehicle, police said Monday.

The crash killed a 4-year-old boy, Justin Quinones, and left his 2-year-old half-brother, Samuel Flores, in critical condition at Hartford Hospital Monday night.


Please, one more time for everyone who wasn’t paying attention, tell us how Hartford cops make so much more money than firefighters.

That begs the question, if you guys are making so much money why are so many of you getting arrested for stealing on duty? Xboxes, Lobsters, pistol fermit fees, etc…

I’m starting to see why your own people aren’t backing you up at violent EDP calls, genius.

Anonymous said...

The only way to get him out is by an investigation, US Attorney's Office investigation.

Anonymous said...

Hey MCAFAGHP, I see you didn't mention all the Firefighters that are smokin weed in the Firehouses and dealing drugs out of them... Did you forget that arrest??? Ummmh

Anonymous said...

Touch-of-Class mayor will build us a Touch-of-Class stadium. Escort service provided by the Solomons to the Segarras. At the skybox. Caviar included.

Anonymous said...

In a Hartford Courant story, they reported... "Segarra is seeking the council's approval to transfer 19 properties to DoNo Hartford LLC for $1 apiece..." This sounds like the old Abbott & Costello bit, What's on first, Who's on second.

Mr. Mayor, who did you award the project to? DoNo. Mr. Mayor, who are the players in this LLC? DoNo. Mr. Mayor, do you ever think that the taxpayers will see a return on this investment? DoNo...

Touch of class development services said...

Wooden and mayor caviar are joined at the hip. Jennings and Kyle Anderson do wooden,s bidding. Wooden has disgraced his office by doing caviar,s bidding in a cavalier manner.

Anonymous said...

IF anyone VOTES to re-elect BABALING Anderson or WINDSOR Jennings they need their HEAD EXAMED!!!!

THEY GOTTA GO, Jennings would make a good Madame and Anderson a great Doorman at the Coming Soon Caviar "Touch of Class" Escort Service.

Anonymous said...

WilyCoyoteSuperGenius

" This deal will involve the city leasing all of that space at a far above market rate, just as they will lease the ballpark for $5 million per year and then sublease it to the baseball team for $500K. This is all about finding a way to claim it is private money, when in fact ultimately taxpayers will be handed the bill."

Anonymous said...

georgelb14

"Details, details, details - where are the details? The risk of the ballpark is still on the back of the city under this deal structure - and the 210,000 square feet of municipal office space is still in the deal. One way or another the taxpayers are going to pay for this project - even if much of it is privately financed."

Anonymous said...

Congrats Segarra, you've chosen the best offer for a new Hartford ballpark. Please do not forget to disclose how much you, your spouse, your friends & relatives and/or cronies are going to benefit from this offer. If you & the others have no personal gains from this, please say so, loud & clear. Also, don't 'forget' to tell us how much, in the name of the Lord, is the lease FROM Centerplan is going to cost us AND how much will the net income be from the Rock Cats ($500,000 is before expenses, maintenance & more). Again, the NET income. Basically, we're asking you to be honest, honest Pedro...

Anonymous said...

11:04 AM Don't you worry, Caviar Segarra will mishmash all the numbers, incomes, expenses, fees, commissions, everything. Caviar Segarra's good at it. He'll make sure we're all confused with all the messy numbers, this way he can declare the city - and himself - as a winner. Trust me on this.

Anonymous said...

Ken_Krayeske:

"This is the same stupid stadium deal, without the bonding. The same numbers used to justify the $4.8 million in annual bonding payments are now here, but without the referendum. $1.9 million in parking surcharges? How do you justify that? You can't because it doesn't exist in reality. In Segarra's unicorn farmville, it does. But this proposal simply removes it from the realm of public input by wiping out the public's ability to take it to referendum. Obnoxious."

Touch of class ballpark satdium said...

The premium payment on the lease is far in excess of the debt service on the bonds,if there was bonding.so the moral of the story is that mayor caviar is so scared of the opposition to this terrible deal that he went with a sale leaseback in which the city pays even more money to billionaires......all to avoid a referendum in which the bonding referendum would be defeated.

Anonymous said...

Caviar submitted MUSH, I hate Mayor Caviar but this submittal will be reviewed and accepted without details by the INCOMPETENT COUNCIL!

If Council had any intelligents they would question this proposal. So although I know Caviar's deceptive motives, WHERE THE HELL IS COUNCIL????

So educated, really??? We need REAL PEOPLE, with real ideas and real LOVE AND COMMITMENT FOR HARTFIRD!!!

Hartford, do tell; How is the FAKE DO NOTHING, WELL EDUCATED WORKING FOR YOU????

Anonymous said...

This deal doesn't make sense AT ALL. It's spending millions of $$$ it doesn't have on some billionaires, all this that Segarra, Wooden & Seller could save their faces. Not to mention their egos. Tell Deller the Seller, in his own words: "we are good negotiators" while hiding all the important details. Shame on you Segarra, Wooden, Seller. SHAME ON YOU, BUNCH OF LIARS!

Anonymous said...

This 'done-deal' stinks. It must be stopped. STOP THE INSANITY!

Anonymous said...

The bonding deal was a bad deal. This one is even worse.

Anonymous said...

As much as I'd like to see a ballpark in Hartford, I believe that this ballpark deal is fraud. All around fraud. Too many lies for too long.

Pasquale scarrano said...

Anyone have faith that wooden will finally grow a spine?

Anonymous said...

CRIMINALS are NOT HONEST: CAVIAR PEDRO IS A CRIMINAL! What di you expect frim him, why are you expecting HONESTY???

This CRIMINAL has NO MORALS and can't be HONEST, he has never been and win't start NOW!

Feris Bueller said...

Anyone have an idea what Wooden will run for next?

Anonymous said...

you kidding me? Wooden will run for anything, ANYTHING where he can make an extra buck, well, many extra bucks...